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I'm exhausted from arguing with someone last night that I went to college with about this. He kept giving *a priori* responses like these people have degrees in astrophysics and physics from prestigious colleges phds they'll put your ass in a sling. I said I'm not just kidding this off the internet not that the Internet isn't reliable. Just two things: I had a lengthy discussion with a top engineer at a pipeline company in the San Francisco Bay area that assured me they do not account for curvature when they lay dozens of miles of pipeline. I have visited the so-called tropic of Capricorn I.E South Africa there is no Twilight there when the Sun goes down that's it. If the Earth curves at 8 inches squared every mile why can we see so far in the distance. I even threw in I'm a hundred miles east of Mount Shasta as the crow flies and yet to me it points straight up that doesn't seem possible on your globe. These people have internalized the will of their oppressor what's so hilarious to me is how upset they get when I pick on their oppressors I give up

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